{"id":1187,"date":"2014-02-21T07:51:53","date_gmt":"2014-02-21T07:51:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.hunsriqueano.riolingo.com\/blog\/?p=1187"},"modified":"2014-02-21T10:27:03","modified_gmt":"2014-02-21T10:27:03","slug":"toll-prima-cousine-vetter-pate-und-gote","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.hunsriqueano.riolingo.com\/blog\/toll-prima-cousine-vetter-pate-und-gote\/","title":{"rendered":"Toll &#8211; Prima &#8211; Cousine &#8211; Vetter &#8211; Pat(e) und Got(e) &#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Heit is das weltweit Moddersproch Tooch: 21. Februar \/ UNESCO. Uma homenagem ao dialeto do Hunsr\u00fcck no Dia da L\u00edngua Materna. Happy international Mother Language Day!<\/p>\n<p>Voc\u00ea sabia que o alem\u00e3o \u00e9 a segunda l\u00edngua mais falada no Brasil?<br \/>\nQue quase um quarto dos habitantes do estado do Rio Grande do Sul fala o dialeto alem\u00e3o do Brasil chamado Riograndenser Hunsr\u00fcckisch? <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.hunsriqueano.riolingo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Screen-Shot-2014-02-20-at-11.24.00-PM.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.hunsriqueano.riolingo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Screen-Shot-2014-02-20-at-11.24.00-PM.png?resize=407%2C343\" alt=\"Screen Shot 2014-02-20 at 11.24.00 PM\" width=\"407\" height=\"343\" class=\" size-full wp-image-1188\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.hunsriqueano.riolingo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Screen-Shot-2014-02-20-at-11.24.00-PM.png?w=407&amp;ssl=1 407w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.hunsriqueano.riolingo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Screen-Shot-2014-02-20-at-11.24.00-PM.png?resize=300%2C252&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.hunsriqueano.riolingo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Screen-Shot-2014-02-20-at-11.24.00-PM.png?resize=355%2C300&amp;ssl=1 355w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 407px) 100vw, 407px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Vou aproveitar este gr\u00e1fico para apontar alguns detalhes, diferen\u00e7as entre o nosso dialeto alem\u00e3o regional e o alem\u00e3o-padr\u00e3o, chamado de Hochdeutsch &#8211; ou pra quem fala o dialeto alem\u00e3o Riograndenser Hunsr\u00fcckisch: Hochdeitsch &#8230; Procure manter em mente que entre falantes do alem\u00e3o no sul do pa\u00eds tem toda uma gama de n\u00edveis de flu\u00eancia (de afastamento da l\u00edngua), e tamb\u00e9m de contato com o alem\u00e3o-padr\u00e3o. Pois  bem, eu gostaria de me dirigir \u00e0quelas pessoas que nunca estudaram o alem\u00e3o, que s\u00f3 o conhecem como l\u00edngua oral, falada em casa, com parentes, amigos, vizinhos, em comunidade em sua regi\u00e3o. <\/p>\n<p>OK, em primeiro lugar, a pergunta: &#8220;Wie geht es dir heute?&#8221; Aqui a \u00fanica coisa que \u00e9 um tanto diferente \u00e9 heute que n\u00f3s pronunciamos heit (ou para quem n\u00e3o aprendeu nem o alfabeto em alem\u00e3o, h\u00e1it). Voc\u00ea ir\u00e1 perceber que esta diferen\u00e7a entre o termo em Hochd. e no dialeto representa na verdade um padr\u00e3o que se repete em um vasto n\u00famero de palavras parecidas&#8230; quer dizer, pessoas = Leute em Hochd. fica Leit no dialeto; amigo = Freund = Freind; fogo = Feuer = Feier; caro = teuer = teier; estilingue (assim como na nossa l\u00edngua nacional, no alem\u00e3o tem muitos nomes regionais diferentes para esta pe\u00e7a ) = Schleuder = Schleider; cigano = Zigeuner = Zigeiner \/ Zigeunerin = Zigeinerin; e assim por diante. <\/p>\n<p>A palavra toll para muitos de n\u00f3s se refere ao estado alcoolizado em que se encontra uma pessoa &#8211; tonto, tonto de tanto beber, der ist toll, der hot zu viel Schnaps getrunk, orrer zu viel Bier getrunk. Quando a gente era crian\u00e7a e brincava no p\u00e1tio (Hof) de rodear at\u00e9 ficar tonto, a gente diz, Meine G\u00fcte, ich sin jetzt toll (note que dizer &#8220;Ich sin&#8221; em vez de &#8220;Ich BIN&#8221; \u00e9 uma marca forte e bem antiga do nossa ra\u00edz lingu\u00edstica no sudoeste da alemanha, Palatinado\/Palz no dialeto e no Hochd. Pfalz, Hesse, Hunsr\u00fcck, Saarre\/Saarland e mesmo em Lorena\/Lothringen na Fran\u00e7a e no Luxemburgo). <\/p>\n<p>Prima para n\u00f3s significa o feminino de primo; a vasta maioria de falantes do alem\u00e3o do sul n\u00e3o conhece os empr\u00e9stimos do franc\u00eas no alem\u00e3o moderno o primo = der Cousin (plural die Cousins), a prima = die Cousine (plural die Cousinnen). L\u00f3gico que uma vez expostos ao significado da express\u00e3o prima, no sentido de ahh que legal, bacana &#8230; as pessoas &#8220;pegam&#8221; logo isso. Detalhe: Visitar uma casa de prostitui\u00e7\u00e3o era dito em portugu\u00eas, muitas vezes, no interior &#8220;ir nas primas&#8221; &#8211; no nosso dialeto isto era dito der ou das Puff = Bordell (sendo que este coloquialismo antigo tem origem em um jogo ou Brettspiel\/en Gl\u00fcckspiel mit W\u00fcrfel &#8230; que homens usavam como desculpa ou fa\u00e7ada). <\/p>\n<p>Quanto a deparar-se com termos ou express\u00f5es novas, geralmente s\u00e3o de f\u00e1cil absor\u00e7\u00e3o &#8211; eu mesmo por exemplo s\u00f3 precisei ouvir uma vez &#8220;Kapierst du?&#8221; na Alemanha e gravei logo o seu significado &#8211; quer dizer, \u00e9 algo que eu nunca tinha ouvido no RGS. <\/p>\n<p>Muitas pessoas na Alemanha moderna nem se d\u00e3o conta de qu\u00e3o fragmentado era o idioma alem\u00e3o at\u00e9 algumas d\u00e9cadas atr\u00e1s, havendo regionalismos muito fortes &#8211; o que diminuiu muito nos \u00faltimos anos com a televis\u00e3o e m\u00eddias posteriores. Os nomes para padrinho e madrinha antigamente variavam MUITO de regi\u00e3o para regi\u00e3o na Europa teut\u00f3fona. <\/p>\n<p>Ent\u00e3o para padrinho a gente diz Pat, forma reduzida de Pate; e para madrinha, eu nunca ouvi Patin (comumente utilizado na Europa), mas pode ser que era conhecido em minha regi\u00e3o, vou ter que me informar sobre isto &#8211; mas a gente dizia sempre die Got (pronunciado &#8220;g\u00f4-\u00f4t&#8221;, com um \u00f4 prolongado, portanto n\u00e3o como a pron\u00fancia da palavra Deus \/ Gott [com dois tts] em alem\u00e3o que em compara\u00e7\u00e3o s\u00f3 tem o som de um \u00f4; no caso Got \u00e9 uma forma curta de Gote, que \u00e9 um dos nomes antigos para madrinha [ele ganha v\u00e1rias outras formas, como Godl, Gotte, etc.]). <\/p>\n<p>No noroeste do RGS a gente n\u00e3o conhecia os afetivos Oma e Opa para v\u00f3 e v\u00f4 &#8230; eu s\u00f3 fui aprender o significado destes termos bem depois de ter sa\u00eddo do ambiente de meu dialeto alem\u00e3o regional. Inclusive h\u00e1 poucos anos atr\u00e1s perguntei uma irm\u00e3 minha e minha m\u00e3e que faz algum tempo moram em SC, se elas sabiam o que significavam estes dois termos &#8211; \u00e9 italiano pra vov\u00f3 e vov\u00f4, disseram-me as duas separadamente. Ao pesquisar o assunto, eu descobri que Oma e Opa n\u00e3o eram universalmente utilizados na l\u00edngua alem\u00e3 at\u00e9 uns cem anos atr\u00e1s &#8211; quer dizer, tudo tem uma explica\u00e7\u00e3o. <\/p>\n<p>Eu ainda ouvi muito o termo Vetter para primo, e se n\u00e3o me engano para algum parentesco afastado &#8230; mas mesmo este termo eu acho que estava caindo em desuso quando eu era jovenzinho; e a forma feminina de Vetter: Vettrin &#8211; no Hochd. Vetterin &#8211; plural Vetrinne &#8211; no Hochd. Veterinnen, era mais rara ainda; talvez eu nem a tenha ouvido, mas tenha sido exposto \u00e0 ela em alguma leitura de texto antigo na minha vida adulta. <\/p>\n<p>Ainda: o termo mais comum para padre da igreja no nosso dialeto \u00e9 Pooter (que poderia ser grafado Pooder ou Pooda) &#8211; mas n\u00e3o esquecendo que boa parcela de nossos falantes de dialeto n\u00e3o puxam a pron\u00fancia tanto para \u00f3 em palavras deste perfil, pronunciando Paater (que poderia ser grafado Paader ou Paada); no alem\u00e3o-padr\u00e3o der Pater; mas h\u00e1 v\u00e1rios outros termos para isto no alem\u00e3o (Geistlicher, M\u00f6nch; no portugu\u00eas tamb\u00e9m temos vig\u00e1rio, e cura, por exemplo). <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pages\/Riograndenser-Hunsr%C3%BCckisch\/366655020086673\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-797\" alt=\"Screen Shot 2014-01-29 at 12.07.28 AM\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.hunsriqueano.riolingo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/01\/Screen-Shot-2014-01-29-at-12.07.28-AM.png?resize=194%2C223\" width=\"194\" height=\"223\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Heit is das weltweit Moddersproch Tooch: 21. 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